Every Playstation 3 owner has had to deal with the downtime of the PSN, thus leaving them incapable of trying out the latest releases online.
There have been numerous rumors and myths regarding who attacked the PSN exactly and the blame has ranged from problems in Japan to the Anonymous group (although the claim innocence). Now it seems we may be one step closer to identifying the perpetrators responsible for our lack of online gaming.
Thanks to an off topic post by Formula One Australia, the possible IP address has been uncovered along with other useful information. The IP address that came up consistently is 214.211.251. Here is what they discovered:
Hostname: nhlem-wsa-dp.med.navy.mil
ISP: DoD Network Information Center
Organization: DoD Network Information Center
Proxy: None detected
Type: Corporate
Assignment: Static IP
Country: United States
State/Region: California
City: Lemoore
Latitude: 36.2939
Longitude: -119.8286
Area Code: 559
Postal Code: 93245
The chat logs* from which the IP address was secured are posted below. It is a lengthy read, but if you make it through the entire piece you’ll see what kind of people Sony’s dealing with.
xxx: I don’t think there are many people involved in circumventing
PSN access in /this/ channel [ “application/x-i-5-ticket” reason=40 >
PSN error 80710101 ]talk about network stuff?
nice
i just finished decrypting 100% of all psn functions
:)
you can forget all the history wiper and log remove apps
theres a independant check
which transfers all games and their playtime
every time you login
you can modify it like the firmware version tho
it looks like:
aswell they can detect backups this way
hash is eboot.bin to check for version?
if you use a backup it will look like this:
boot=”2011-02-03T20:35:09.00Z” playtime=”8875″ /
user2, is that in data sent to a0.[CC].np.communication.playstation.
netsec lemme check
im still collecting all the data
updptl.de.np.community.playstation.net/
thats the server
user2: what about Blu-ray Master Disc/BD Emulator ?
since, i use those features legitimately
on debug or retail?
i didnt check all on debug unit yet
so no clue if it sends discid for bdemu
but sony is the biggest spy ever lol
they collect so much data
true
all connected devices return values sent to sony server
example:
user2: Debug models of course :)
>32” TFT-TVOEMreleasecex
i cannot find my PS3 connect to host with ‘updptl’ in the name
returns tv, fw version, fw type, console model
also i found data it collects when i had usb device attached etc etc
so if they ever sue someone for psn stuff, they will be sued
themselves as most of the data they collect is just not legaluser2, at what time does it connect to that host?
during the PSN logon?
sec i check
user2 how can you modify that data?
user2: do you now know enough to wipe all traces so that people
who never had their consoles on the internet can avoid sending this
information now? :)no DNS request for a host with ‘updptl’ in the name in my packet
captures :-\@user5: it sents directly after user profile load and sometimes; –
it seams random, just when u play a game or anythingohh
@xxxx: we could modify the data via proxy between the tunnels,
like delete all data between the xml tags or somehowoh so its not on the ps3 hdd itself?
user2: aha, so this information is actually encrypted?
ya
the list is stored online
and updated when u login psn and random
damn
but where is it stored before that? I have never been online
with my ps3…so it must be somewhere
was hoping it would be on the ps3 hdd
then lock it or so
the only avoidance is block all *.playstation.net
MAYBE – i rly dont know – it doesnt save it at all on hdd
so only transfers the games and stuff in one ps3 session when
you go onlineso if u have ps3 offline and play a game, then shutdown and
turn on againit MAY not transfer update
cuz i didnt find any info for that list on hdd
it could be that its used for online playtime or psn logged in
playtimeaswell you should never ever install a CFW from someone unknown
cuz its way too easy todo scamming at this point
for example:
creditCard.paymentMethodId=VISA&creditCard.holderName=Max&
creditCard.cardNumber=**********&creditCard.expireYear=****&creditCard.
expireMonth=*&creditCard.securityCode=***&creditCard.address.address1=
example street%2024%20&creditCard.address.city=city1%20&creditCard.
address.province=abc%20&creditCard.address.postalCode=12345%20sent as plaintext
uh
did you censor that card?
ya its fake
good
wow, plaintext :S
plaintext wow
im never putting in my details like that
ya is all fake lol
i never used cc on ps3
normally you ATLEAST enccrypt the securtity code, even if its ssl
id hope sony would do such in a safe manner
psn cards probably plain text to then
fake certs are known since years as vuln so companies encrypt
such data twice normallybut hey its sony –> its a feature
lol
lol
yeah if you go public with your info they either remove the
store or psn all togetheras an update
I doubt it :P
from all the actions they’ve taken the past years, we can only
deduce that Sony don’t care about their customersimpossible
:)
they wont update their whole psn lol
but this should really get out there, but I guess it’s on
psx-scene.com in a matter of minutes already ;)3.60 removal of psn
i know a few guys who worked @ sony’s psn backend. just when
the ps3 was released we talked bout the first psn, at this time ALL was
http and unencrypted. so you could see userpass etc plain. i asked em
why is it that way. lame answer was “we thought it was adressed.” – lolsony qa –> trainees
that fits nicely into the “#define rand() 4” mentality. ;)
yep
or more of
ECDSA_PRIVATE_KEY privateKey;
lol
and PrivateKey is in a header file
and it’s static
xD
and ECDSA_RANDOM in a header file
and so on
another funny function i found is regarding psn downloads
its when a pkg game is requested from the store
in the url itself you can define if you get the game free or not.
requires some modification in hashes and so on tho..
is like
:D
my god
drm:off
lol
lol
:facepalm:
well, that’s one way to offload the server.
still wondering when the big ban wave arrives :D
if they ban everyone, even using backups legally in their country
(but in their opinion a TOS violation), it will be a huge tsunami, not a
waveask ur friends :P
prolly they take it like it is now, unstoppable anyways
new firmware to ban all further actions and done
an open psn would be nice
even if it was just a player matching service
ya
a PSN host by the community :)
that actually could be perhaps possible
if you can get auth working
and all
a new np environment
the friend list management is easiest
simple jabber server
don’t some games use their own servers?
some use p2p
which check from the official psn servers whether you’re logged
in and who you areimagine the traffic load :D
whod pay this xD
yes, but even p2p games do use publisher or sony provided servers
for matchmakingNpCommerce2
I am getting behind everything on doing my security analysis
started a couple months ago monitoring SSL stuff, and theen got
distracted with blackops and havent pursed it, seems a lot of people are
starting to take interest in it nowand regarding matchmaking and lobby systems
the functions built in firmware and/or game
how would you answer them
the server side code we dont know of
some stuff appears to be in lv2 and not in sprx for network stuff
so we can not create proper answers
you can try to analyze the protocol and say “if X then Y” type
responses the problems come up when you get something you haveent seen
beforethat was done with counterstrike for example so that people could
cheatso its not entirely impossible although it is time consuming
sometimes its happy accidents, reason code 21 means bad cipher,
51 bad firmware version – for x-i-5 tickets for examplewasn’t cs/hl server software available for anyone to download even
back then?anyone found a way to change DVD region on ps3 yet, btw?
for psn you can’t even get binaries for the server side
user2 i remember some months ago you made a psntool with a psn
messenger in it but not yet functional is that still being worked on?but for stuff like that the ticket has to exist on the psn side
of things because if I send my ticket to a vendor server they will validate
it against psn and if its not there it will failxxx: wasn’t syscall 0×363 0×19004 3rd byte usefull for that?
@xxxx: at this time i could finish the tool yes but im not sure
if it is useful at allxxxx: no but you can monitor traffic, even send some “bad” things
and watch the responses… I discovered x-i-5 reason code 21 by accident,
I did not force my proxy to mirror the cipher that the ps3 presentedi mean why would someone want to chat with a someone on ps3
while any1 anyway have msn/icq/aol
know this, sony in realtime, monitors all messages over psn
I verified that, its part of my privacy threats thing I am doing
ok too bad id like the psn messenger on pc
the realtime monitoring is a bit bothersome to me
user1: such information is quite useless to me, as I’m not that
into the technical stuff :) was more hoping someone had an easy way to
do it.. like a DVD region changer or something.@user12: the realtime jabber monitoring as most likely for
realtime censor of messagesthey appear to have at the very least keywords they look for,
not sure just how invasive the whole thing is, but …well they have osme odd things in there
yeah they have that dumb automatic word filter
the censor word-list is ridiculous
psn messenger would be helpful, just yesterday was killed 2
times when typing response on the message + its so slow loadinga psn code that is not really valid if you sent that via email
it becomes valid but you cant add funds to your wallet. The fact that
emailing that code to someone makes it valid for you is odd … why
monitor that code?which makes it much more difficult to have a sensible
conversation in languages other than englishwhy change its state on sending it?
the censor words in home is on your system, it downloads a
dict list of wordsan empty file resolves that
tryin to find my jabber logs… >.<
so it only censors on receipt not on transmission
dunno how the other stuff does it
mostly because I have yet to look
now you have me curious I am gonna go redo my network a
little bit to start monitoring again :)btw aswell a reason AGAINST pc to ps3 messenger is spam
cuz there actually is an easy way to get userlists
would fuck psn pretty hard if some skiddy releases a spam app
the highscore and matchmaking lobbies you can request per game
id and get user mails for psnugh, yeah
huge list + spam app == sux
argghhhh
why do my trophies never sync to np
anyway sony just would have to open a port on the jabber server,
so you could login with icqlol
and we all know what happens if cool homebrew arrives, remember
open remote playsony just releases an official tool lol
thing is the more people do things and discuss what they do and
explain how to do it the more likely sony will lock down psn in the futurepsn is a core feature of ps3
making it harder and harder to do anything, like using older
firmwares to log in, that will probably be the first to go awaythey would be sued like with otheros
yeah but they also blocked open remote play
user12: that already went away, didn’t it
if you are not running current firmware you do not have a right
to psnuser12: even for debug users
not really, not yet anyway
3.56 did not break it but the next release might
especially because it stops people running backups and other
stuff on psnwell i mean 3.41
ya would be all possible for them
not sure what, if anything, changed with 3.41
you used to be able to sign in on debug 3.41 until someone
released that psn enabler hackone way more difficult than the other so i think they first
will go on with backup ban on psneven though 3.42 and 3.50 had already been released
via playlists and stuff i meantioned before
a secure way to fix it would require firmware and server
update thowondering what prevents em of this way
I just got a new ps3 yesterday, has 3.40, gonna put 3.55 on it
and do my workI *might* try with 3.40 and see if I can do enough of my work,
that would make it somewhat harder thoughbanwave possibly, new FW + plus they still need to fix that
3.56-1st/2nd harddrive exchange bug in the next versionbecause my work is specialized and very limited in scopee
the psn has 45 environments all working independant
prolly that is the reason
we could just change to another environment
and they also need to have an eye to the official developers
which use environments tooand the qa
which needs to work with older firmware sometimes
so they cant update all environments and block all
probably so much ITIL process management so they can’t fart
without a work requesthehe
the way that people are getting on now is to change the user
agent in the login request, well x-platform-version specifically. but
if the x-platform-passphrase changes in how its constructed then its
easy to detect people trying to use an older firmwarethey can even without the xi
as the firmware version is in a lot more requests than the auth
version is sent to the getprof servers also
ppl change only the xi one atm
and ena.
but its in netstart, xi, game starts
I understand that part of it, I was just talking about x-i-5
auth stuffmany many functions send the real fw version
but only xi5 is checked
I realize that many functions send the fw version, anything
that uses libhttp.sprx doesya
remember I have been donig this for a couple months
even wrote software that lets me do the ssl parts on the fly
instead of to a fixed server, mirroring the CN of the real serverwhat is the data in xi5 at 0xC0 ->EOF ? some crypto/salt ?
luckily they use CN=*.*.np.community.playstation.net which saves
a bit of hassle, just calling openssl from your app user12 ?openssl libs
not the app itself
and I do it for *ALL* ssl connections in realtime
so even if you use the webbrowser it will generate certs for
that toonice tool you made :)
it is similar in function to “sslsniff” but mine works with
the ps3 and logs correctlyfor the first i think ppl should use a replace of all 3.5.5
and 355 strings but regarding to the user agent, else psn wont loaduser12 which certs u use?
only 05 i guess ?
CA i mean sorry
user2: I use them all
there is a place that the firmware version is in lv2 that is
not a “string”its ‘decimal’ “035500” not sure if its 32 or 64 bit in size
though,btw u know the login url for auth is like:
but that is not the ascii 3 its the decimal value
&serviceid=IV0001-NPXS01001_00&loginid=MYMAIL&password=
MYPASS&first=true&consoleid=MYIDI have complete logs for the auth stuff
did u already change the “first” param?
i wonder what it does
first=true is only there if you had not previously loggged
into psnah ok
its missing if you were previously logged in but you need a
new ticetticket
hi
please not connect
to external dns ip
with your ps3
your passwords and email and other data is revealed on the
external sidewhich you need for each service id that you need one for,
meaning if you sync trophies you get 1 ticket, when you play a game you
get a 2nd ticket, when you watch netflix you get a 3rdspam people can use this info
most likely if they are mapping that host
if its just the firmware check then no, because there is nothing
private sent in that http (cleartext) requestso it depends on what hosts they are looking at
to start a spamming attack
hm didnt check that ticket stuff yet
as when i used a ticket
for a test POST
i worked with 1 only
and always worked
prolly many to identify the service
the ticket is sent to say a game, netflix, etc. anythibng that
uses psn. That way you do not send credentials to anyone but sonyif its like u say then this is another vuln lol
cuz as i tested if always first ticket works
you could hijack a session
the ticket and session i used didnt timeout
and if it always creates a new ticket as u say
there would be many sessions
I also haave yet to monitor how long the tickets are valid for,
I know that the ps3 does not reuse them between apps but that could just
be the way its coded (they might be valid even though a normal ps3 will
never reuse)for one user open
it may invalidate old ones on issuance of a new, I never looked
I just know that I saw it getting one at app launch
hm wierd with the tickets
i know the ticket is build outta few params
the serial
the userid
issueddare
service id
online id
many many :P
I also know that the server that does the x-i-5 tickets is a
bit more tight about the ciphers than any other system in sonylandif sony is watching this channel they should know that running
an older version of apache on a redhat server with known vulnerabilities
is not wise, especially when that server freely reports its version and its
the auth serverits not old version, they just didnt update the banner
I consider apache 2.2.15 old
which server
it also has known vulnerabilities
auth.np.ac.playstation.net
ya the displayed version u see via banner is not the real version
unless they updated it in the last couple weeks
I doubt that since its not trivial to change that
its a bit more invasive than just setting it to Prod like they
do on their other serversyou know, watching this conversation makes me think about whether
it was a good idea after all to buy a couple of games from psn using a visa
cardits just backported security patches
i did remove all my info after downloading the games though
that is just psn not the store
they are running linux 2.6.9-2.6.24 on that box too
that too is old
lol @ buying on store
yes, but their general attitude towards security just seems…ugh
sony wont misuse the info i bet xD
but just prevent using cfw’s of unknown ppl
even better from ALL ppl
make ur own lol
so I doubt that they are spoofing the network stack on that
box as wellmy guess is that it really is undermaintained “it works why
change anything”could be
sony really should update that stuff to something more current
ya
but imagine
psn == 45 environments
and for example
every env has 50 subdomains
to external machines
its rly rly huge
who wants to do this xD
ppl r lazy
wont change
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